lol, I didn't say it was disgusting or wrong, I just don't have a desire to watch other people do it, lol. it just seems unnecessary in most cases.

Max (or anyone else who is interested ^^), if you want to know more about the actual depth of the rabbit hole of the Matrix, i.e. the whole philosophy behind it and all those philosophical and religious images in it, I also strongly recommend watching "The roots of the Matrix". It's 1 hour full of background information like that. ^^

I know you didn't Higure that's just what i "read between the lines" lol. I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree here. I think it's got an important place in the visual medium, you think it doesn't . What do you think about sex scenes in novels? and im not talking about romantic novels or the like i've read many sci-fi and fantasy books that have scenes in them.

Thanks Nana i think i'll check that out, i'm into stuff like that.

Hey! It's available for free as streaming video!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8867855532205075768&ei=95GjSLfPNZDY2gLfiPXoDA

if its too detailed I'll skip over it, if not I don't have to see anything in my mind I don't want to, lol. Besides with a book or something its not like you're looking at REAL people, lol, even if movies are movies, it really is that actor and actress you're watching doing it-(even tho they're pretending, but thats why they're actors, its quite real looking after some editing and stuff).

lol, yes, I do think that we'll probably never see eye to eye on this matter, of course its all up to opinion, not like its a bad thing that we disagree, lol.

Exactly it's always good to hear other peoples points of view (even if they do belong in the 1800's lol JK JK)

Thanks for the link Nana when i get some spare time i'll check it out.

haha, yeah I know, maybe my views are bit conservative, but since when was that a bad thing? lol. Its not like I refuse to watch anything with it in it, lol. unlike some people I know, the "I refuse to watch rated R movies unless they're edited on TV even tho I'm old enough to watch them." or "Even if it's just violence and not sex or nudity I refuse to watch it."

sure, its okay to have views like that, but live a little, I've been watching rated R movies since I was like 7. lol.

Oh, oops. That's the wrong video from that DVD I posted. ^^ Not that that one is not interesting...

I found the one I wanted to show you, too, though: "Return to the Source - Philosophy and the Matrix".
The quality is just not the best and it's a bit scattered.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
Part 6
Part 7
Part 8

I just got back from seeing The Dark Knight for the first time (yes i know "took you long enough") I loved it i thought it was a brilliant movie. Heath Ledger was the perfect Joker.

OMG Heath Ledger is The Joker in Batman?
Then i need 2 watch The Dark Knight in cinema out of respect
Haven't seen it yet but since it got 2 the 1st place of imdb's top 250 ever in such a short time it HAS TO BE a great movie

it is a remarkable movie, I love Dark Knight a lot, I'm planning to go see it again in theaters as soon as I have the spare cash. But the whole movie is awesome, I love it, everyone should go see it in theaters, awesome experience.

I know it really is a cinema type movie.